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00:37	-!-	Bluelads4 [~Bluelads4<(a)>p5B34A562.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit []
01:06	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal_website/content/account/createcharacter.php: display warnings in the form
01:14	hendrik	Expected: is "I buy cheese, meat, spinach, ham, flour, and porcini." got: "i buy items of these kinds: cheese, meat, spinach, ham, flour, and porcini."
01:23	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/entity/npc/EventRaiser.java: a new class EventRaiser to be able to use ChatActions for more than SpeakerNPCs
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06:00	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/entity/npc/ (4 files): replaced SpeakerNPC with EventRaiser as thrid parameter in ChatAction
06:07	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/entity/npc/ (41 files in 4 dirs): replaced SpeakerNPC with EventRaiser as thrid parameter in ChatAction
06:10	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/ (23 files in 16 dirs): use EventRaiser instead of SpeakerNPC
06:11	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/semos/ (24 files in 12 dirs): use EventRaiser instead of SpeakerNPC
06:13	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/ (6 files in 2 dirs): use EventRaiser instead of SpeakerNPC
06:13	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/sedah/gatehouse/GateKeeperNPC.java: use EventRaiser instead of SpeakerNPC
06:14	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/ (58 files): use EventRaiser instead of SpeakerNPC
06:14	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/ (13 files in 3 dirs): use EventRaiser instead of SpeakerNPC
06:14	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/ (8 files in 2 dirs): use EventRaiser instead of SpeakerNPC
06:15	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/tests/games/stendhal/server/ (5 files in 4 dirs): use EventRaiser instead of SpeakerNPC
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09:36	kymara	** Laguz ** this ----^ will mean a change for your uncommitted NPC files
09:38	-!-	yoriy [~yoriy<(a)>62.182.51.174] has joined #arianne
09:42	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/entity/npc/behaviour/adder/BuyerAdder.java: Capitalise I. correct grammar.
09:42	kymara	not sure why the change for buyer response to offer wasn't also wanted for the seller?
09:43	postman-bot	finix rented a sign saying "i buy black helmet, black legs, and blue elf cloaks"
09:44	kymara	the buyer tests are failing now
09:44	kymara	but looking at the text comparisons I'm a bit unsure why the change is needed
09:45	kymara	there hasn't been anything put in to make it use the full form
09:45	kymara	and the old grammar was correct.
09:45	kymara	well, on the food ones anyway it is all fine
09:45	kymara	I guess for the blue shield it sounded weird in singular
09:54	hendrik	uncommited files? don't do that.
09:54	kymara	yes, but he does.
09:54	kymara	So I'm warning him, that's fair I think.
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10:22	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/ (5 files in 2 dirs): renamed ConditionCheckingPortal to ConditionAndActionPortal
10:29	hendrik	http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968987278&sid=1 Blizzard has stopped their plan to force display of real name in forum postings.
10:29	kymara	good
10:29	kiheru	no wonder. it sounded like a good way to kill the forums
10:30	hendrik	I guess that is one of the difference between Blizzard and Linden Lab.
10:35	kiheru	ufff. I ported GameScreen to swing, but since swing does all drawing in a special thread it means I'll have enough threading issues for the next half a year or so
10:36	Bluelads4	yay yummi work then
10:37	kymara	why is it an issue kiheru?
10:37	kymara	it means you have to make the client 'thread safe' ?
10:42	kiheru	in the current implementation the draws are done between all modifications to the world (map changes, entity adding & removing etc), so there's no rirk of the various lists changing while drawing. since swing does the drawing in a different thread there can be concurrent modifications almost everywhere
10:44	kymara	how do you get round that? can you make the swing thread talk to the other ones?
10:44	kymara	is swing the right thing to use at all
10:44	kiheru	I have synchronized things in the GameScreen itself (entityview list etc), but that's not quite enough
10:47	kiheru	for moving things out of the game screen there are not too many options. for dnd the drawing needs to be in sync with the screen, which basically means they need to be done in the same thread
10:47	hendrik	kiheru, how did you do the synchronizing?
10:48	hendrik	using a synchronizedList for "views" and putting a synchronized(views) block around for-loops and interators?
10:49	kiheru	the other possibility is trying to merge the off screen windows to be actually drawn withing an awt canvas
10:49	kiheru	yes. I'm rather worried about locking the data structures for too long times though
10:51	kiheru	(though the drawing thread spends the majority of the time elsewhere than in views)
10:53	kiheru	there's a non-locking concurrent hash map, but I could not find a similar thing for lists (and the views need ordering)
10:56	kymara	are you already seeing lots of side effects of these problems when you are playing using the client with your uncommitted changes?
10:57	kiheru	nothing visual. just concurrent modifications in some places
10:57	kiheru	(like staticgamelayers, but that one is easy)
11:05	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/entity/mapstuff/portal/ (2 files): implemented actions for portals
11:07	kiheru	nothing that would happen often (after making view and text lists synchronized), but several possible places
11:09	kymara	the times where you sometimes get a black minimap or the weird jumping thing it does, is that also thread issues?
11:15	kiheru	I haven't seen a black minimap, so I don't know about that. a jump could be caused by the drawing thread being left behind, but again I'm not sure what you mean
11:17	Bluelads4	I sometimes get a black minimap currently when I'm logging myself in and sometimes the buddylist is grey and the textfield totally white... I have to restart the client then
11:17	Bluelads4	by the way, there are lots of warnings in my log in relation to soundfiles
11:18	kymara	Bluelads4: that might be if you have not got the full client but the one without suond?
11:18	kymara	*sound
11:18	Bluelads4	hmm let me check :P
11:18	kymara	kiheru: i've tried to describe the jump to you before a few times.
11:19	kymara	it's when i'm walking around and the whole minimap shows for a short moment a different part of the same map
11:20	kymara	i haven't seen the black minimap thing myself but i saw other people talk about that and empty buddy list
11:20	kymara	but i don't know if anyone made any bug reports or screenshots.
11:20	kymara	the minimap jumping is veryhard to make a screenshot because it's only for a moment
11:21	kymara	the comments from people about the blank minimap and buddy list may even have just been in -chat, i'm not sure.
11:21	Bluelads4	I can give you a screenshot for the last thing
11:21	Bluelads4	I got it a second before
11:21	Bluelads4	:D
11:22	kymara	please make a bug report and upload it there
11:22	Bluelads4	oki
11:24	Bluelads4	done
11:30	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/tests/games/stendhal/server/maps/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Updated failing tests: the Buyer is listing items differently
11:30	kymara	The despot quest test is still failing. But yoriy should probably take a look at that and my comments yesterday
11:33	kiheru	map showing temporarily a wrong position sounds weird. should not happen unless the player gets temporarily different coordinates :-/
11:33	kymara	something wrong with panning?
11:35	kymara	note , 6 kikareukin_islands 100 100 are dangerous coords to teleportto for testing :P
11:35	Bluelads4	:D
11:35	kymara	that is a map wher ei often saw it
11:36	kymara	ok, i just got it now
11:36	kymara	i poisoned myself because i gues si am often poisoned there
11:36	kymara	i was walking around using arrow keys just holding the left arrow down to walk right
11:37	kymara	wasn't using click to plan a route as you can't when poisoned
11:40	kiheru	java is being naughty. not a single concurrent modification today yet. last night when I was too tired to do anything about them there were
11:40	kymara	i managed to make one recently i can give you a patch if you like
11:40	kymara	but it wasn't in the client
11:41	kiheru	hunting those in my modified client atm
12:09	*	kymara thinks she needs a wider monitor
12:09	Bluelads4	:D
12:10	kymara	I added the 'Outline' view to eclipse because I have a similar thing in netbeans and it is nice for the really big long files to be able to get to the method easier
12:10	kymara	but now there's even less space to see the code in the main bit of the screen
12:10	kymara	my tv is a monitor really ... maybe I should demote it
12:10	*	madmetzger loves his wide screen at home and at work
12:11	kymara	my tv is really nice ... it's a hdtv flatscreen but supposed to be a monitor too
12:12	kymara	still probably not as big as your monitors though madmetzger
12:13	madmetzger	wide screen is fair enough
12:14	kymara	how wide is yours? is it still measured in inches in europe? and what resolution?
12:14	kymara	and what response time? and what contrast ratio?
12:14	*	kymara wants to have at least one number better D:
12:14	kymara	:D
12:15	Bluelads4	:D
12:16	kymara	I did actually do this to my boss last night when I saw his TV: http://xkcd.com/732/
12:16	kymara	46 inches wide, his ...
12:17	Bluelads4	:D
12:17	madmetzger	my monitors are both 24 inches wide :D
12:18	kymara	ok, mine is 22, but what is your resolution and response time and stuff. mine has to be better somehow
12:18	kymara	i mean my tv/monitor thing
12:18	madmetzger	full hd resolution
12:18	kymara	i only wanted a small tv
12:18	kymara	ok same (but see comic above) - response time?
12:19	madmetzger	reaction time 2ms
12:35	kymara	aw rubbish ok it's still better :(mine is 5 :D
12:35	*	kymara pets tv
12:36	*	madmetzger pets kymara's tv, too
12:36	madmetzger	you won't see a difference between 5 or 2 ms
12:38	postman-bot	harristhemenace rented a sign saying "hi i am back hi all i wish i am a admin"
12:38	hendrik	kymara, I use the package explorer instead of the outline.
12:39	hendrik	you can expand the tree on java files so deeply that it shows the same information.
12:39	kymara	oh. i'd never tried to go very deep
12:39	kymara	cool, thanks
12:39	kymara	i still like the navigator better for browsing but i guess it will getannoying to keep switching
12:56	kiheru	have others seen the minimap jumping problem kymara mentioned earlier?
12:57	hendrik	I messed something up in 0.84 that might have cause that. So it would be interesting if that issue occured in 0.83 and below or 0.85/HEAD.
12:58	kymara	i had teh minimap thing ever since it was moved out
13:00	-!-	Laguz [~Miranda<(a)>p57B0964F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #arianne
13:00	Laguz	hello all
13:00	kymara	hi Laguz
13:01	Laguz	im done with the item levels suggestions
13:02	hendrik	Laguz, thank you.
13:02	hendrik	Laguz, ealier today, i commited action support for portals.
13:02	Laguz	cool
13:02	Laguz	thank you
13:02	Laguz	ill check that later
13:02	kymara	Laguz: would you like to add the min levels yourself for these items?
13:03	Laguz	of course, but i thought we look the suggestions befor
13:03	kymara	If so I can review the wiki tables and make changes if needed to your suggestions, and record which items it's ok to do it for currently (if not all)
13:03	kymara	yes
13:03	kymara	i have been lokoing periodically
13:03	kymara	when you had done some, earlier, after we put the sorting in
13:04	kymara	it was looking ok overall (otherwise i'd have said something to you)
13:04	Laguz	yes i saw it, its nice
13:04	Laguz	i just wonder about the effectivines
13:04	kymara	and did you understand the effectiveness column for attack weapons
13:04	kymara	because ordering by atk alone does nto make sense
13:04	kymara	so i put in the effectiveness which is atk / (rate + 1)
13:04	Laguz	yes i used a formula myself
13:04	kymara	which is how you work out how good a weapon is compared to another
13:05	Laguz	yes i know
13:05	Laguz	but its still not the real useability in the game
13:05	kymara	It doesn't cover lifesteal.
13:05	Laguz	golden blade has low effectiovines
13:05	kymara	I had said whatthe effectiveness meant, in the commit message
13:05	kymara	add effectiveness = atk/(rate+1) to all rated weapons and give heading to each table)
13:05	kymara	when i made the changes.
13:05	kymara	you can see it in the history tab
13:06	kymara	Laguz: i think you may be wrong about the golden blade.
13:06	Laguz	i mean, the golden blade has low effectivnes in the list
13:06	kymara	yes, there is a difference between what you use for big strong creatures way higher level than you (you shoudl use heavy weapon - slow) but for ones around your level or less you shoudl use a low rate weapon (fast)
13:07	Laguz	yes, but this way the min-level ios not only bound to effectivnes
13:07	kiheru	that looks like wrong formula. should be (atk+1)/rate
13:07	kymara	kiheru: oh.
13:07	kymara	sorry
13:08	kymara	i was thinking the +1 on the bottom because of not divide by 0 ... but i guess rate can neverbe 0
13:08	kymara	darn, that took ages to all work through :/ oh well
13:08	kiheru	I would not have noticed if Laguz didn't mention golden blade having low effectiveness
13:08	kymara	these weren't in excel tables or anything so i had to do each by hand.
13:08	kiheru	sorry
13:08	kymara	it took ages.
13:08	Laguz	:D
13:09	kiheru	I should have taken a look at the tables before :-(
13:09	kymara	Laguz: and i had to remove the atk: and def: words that you put in
13:09	kymara	sinec that didn't help odering
13:09	kymara	ordering
13:09	kymara	and you had put atk and rate together in one column
13:09	Laguz	i did?
13:09	kymara	samefor atk and range
13:09	Laguz	i thought only in the head
13:09	kymara	so i had to remove all those too.
13:09	kymara	nope, in everycolumn.
13:09	Laguz	oops
13:09	Laguz	didnt realized
13:10	kymara	http://stendhalgame.org/w/index.php?title=Stendhal_Item_Ideas&oldid=10319
13:10	kymara	look at the old one.
13:10	Laguz	ah yes
13:10	Laguz	the new is much better
13:10	kymara	if yuo used your own formula why didnt' you add it
13:10	kymara	otherwise i cannot see your logic when checking.
13:11	Laguz	no
13:11	kymara	do you want to replace the column i added with your own?
13:11	Laguz	i used your since u added it
13:11	kymara	i dont' feel like correcting mine now.
13:11	Laguz	we just have to correct the effectivnes
13:13	Laguz	this is the reason why i have different levels to effectivness...cause i used my own thoughts to the min-levels
13:13	Laguz	especially at swords
13:14	Laguz	kymara, i will correct it now with the formula (atk+1)/rate
13:15	Laguz	and check the min levels again
13:15	kymara	ok,sorry Laguz
13:15	Laguz	np
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14:05	kiheru	eheh, really making sure a map has the value it has:
14:05	kiheru	collision = collisions.get(area);
14:05	kiheru	if (collision != null) {
14:05	kiheru	collisions.put(area, collision);
14:05	kiheru	}
14:10	hendrik	where did you find that?
14:11	kiheru	client/StaticGameLayers (similar one for protection just after it)
14:16	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/core/engine/ (db/PostmanDAO.java StendhalPlayerDatabase.java): when marking postman messages delivered, don't delete them, just update the delivered flag. register this dao
14:17	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/core/engine/ChatMessage.java: add a toString method for debugging messages
14:18	kiheru	(it's pretty old code. should not break anything but sort of useless)
14:20	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/ (4 files in 4 dirs): when the player logs in, send any new messages from the postman table to them. included the timestamp for when the message was sent
14:20	kiheru	just happened to notice it when looking at threading issues there
14:21	kymara	i think for the npcs who tell postman we could maybe have an Action so that it is very easy
14:21	kymara	like LeaveMessageWithPostmanAction(npcname, playername, message) or something
14:21	kymara	and that action can store the message in the table
14:21	kymara	so that you don't have to think about it for each npc who uses him
14:22	*	hendrik nods.
14:22	kymara	i don't know if it's a good thing but i still make the private message look like it was from postman
14:22	kymara	[13:22] postman tells you: someone asked me to deliver this message:
14:22	kymara	test messages here
14:23	kymara	on 2010-07-10 13:22:41.0
14:23	kymara	(ok, so i could tidy up the timestamp)
14:23	hendrik	can you make it:
14:23	kymara	and then i set the last private chatter to be postman so if the player does /answer then all is well and good
14:23	hendrik	[13:22] postman tells you: someone asked me to deliver this message on 2010-07-10 13:22:
14:23	hendrik	test messages here
14:23	kymara	sure
14:23	kymara	don't know how to tidy up the time stamp though
14:24	kymara	i guess java has date and timefunctions
14:24	kymara	or the sql select coudl do it
14:24	hendrik	substring(0, 16)
14:24	hendrik	the 16 needs testing.
14:24	kymara	isn't that naughty though
14:24	hendrik	it's easy.
14:24	kymara	i mean i was thinking i'd take everything before the last :
14:25	kymara	if i was in sql it's be substring_index(string, ':',-1) but that still feels like cheating :P
14:25	kymara	anwyay, ok
14:25	kiheru	I think the java version is lastIndexOf(':')
14:25	hendrik	it is unlikely that these cheats will cause trouble in the fututure.
14:32	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/entity/player/ReadMessagesOnLogin.java: wait one turn before sending the message because they were coming before the Synchronised message. and make the timestamp look prettier.
14:37	Laguz	kymara, some axes are twohanded. The effectiveness is a bit different too, isnt it?
14:38	kymara	tbh i think that kiheru could easily answer it too.
14:38	kymara	there is one pair of two hand weapons i know of
14:38	kymara	l and r hand swords.
14:38	kymara	you add up the attack of each to get the total attack
14:38	kymara	then divide by their single rate (not added)
14:38	Laguz	i mean, a 2-handed weapon doesnt allows a shield, so the effectiveness is relative
14:38	kymara	yes.
14:39	kymara	as i said it is not perfect
14:39	kymara	also tehre is lifesteal
14:39	Laguz	maybe we should allow lower level for 2-handed in this case
14:39	kymara	and also there is the rate scaling effect for lighter weapons
14:39	kymara	on small creatures, etc
14:39	kymara	but it's a good guide in almost all cases.
14:39	Laguz	yes, i already used lifesteal and fire/ice/dark for the min-level
14:39	kymara	i thought r and l had sword already had a requirement but maybe i am wrong. remember they are a quest reward.
14:40	Laguz	yes they have, i didnt changed it
14:40	hendrik	Laguz, there are no two handed axes.
14:40	kymara	i think level 80 was agreed between everyone when we did it before
14:40	hendrik	there currently is the rule of one item one slot.
14:40	hendrik	so if you can put an axe into one hand, you can put a shield into the other.
14:41	hendrik	and the l and r hand swords are two items.
14:41	Laguz	ok for example: i can use halbert and shield together?
14:41	kiheru	we don't have proper two handed weapons
14:41	Laguz	in real its not possible so i thought they are 2-handed
14:41	Laguz	ok that makes it easier
14:42	Laguz	ill use the same way then
14:42	kiheru	it should not be possible, but we don't have the code for that :-)
14:42	Laguz	i thought that, np
14:44	kiheru	should it get implemented, we'll bump up the atk of the two handed weapons. (then the lack of shield should be taken in account for the levels, of course)
14:45	Laguz	yes that sounds good
14:45	Laguz	ok, im done with the list now
14:45	Laguz	the effectiveness should be correct now
15:55	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: yoriy * stendhal/tests/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/KillEnemyArmyTest.java: fixed reward for quest
15:57	kymara	yoriy: did you see my comments here?
15:58	kymara	I am not happy with players being able to get 3/4 the xp they need to level up every week
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16:04	yoriy	no kym, sorry i didnt seen your comments. Will look at it now
16:08	yoriy	hm, im not happy with fixed amount. It seems to be hard, get balanced amount of xp between high and low level players. Id prefer reduce reward
16:08	yoriy	what about 1/2?
16:09	yoriy	normally you have to hard work to get this reward, so i guess 1/2 can be good
16:10	kymara	It means that players can level up too fast
16:10	kymara	and the task is not scaled by levelof player so why shoudl rewrad be
16:10	kymara	*reward
16:11	kymara	and i think there should be a lower level limit.
16:11	yoriy	item tasks dont scaled too
16:11	yoriy	about low level limit is good idea, i think level 80 is good
16:12	kymara	yoriy: can't you see that adding another one is going to push players to reach max level even faster?
16:12	kymara	i don't want this. i think it's too much. i really prefer at least a cap.
16:12	yoriy	sure, i see it
16:12	kymara	you could scale it but have a cap, maybe they all should be, all these xp dependent on level ones...
16:12	kymara	did you look into making it use whether the kills were solo or shared?
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16:13	kymara	i just think it's pretty unfair that a level 100 player who has to use loads of potions to kill them all will get a way smaller reward than a level 500 player who can do it easy.
16:14	yoriy	yes, you right here.
16:14	kymara	using the solo/shared idea is something other people liked too i thought
16:14	kymara	so that say the minimum you'll get is 100k and that's with all shared
16:15	kymara	up to a max 500k if all solo
16:15	kymara	and with it scaled in between.
16:16	yoriy	idea is good, but hard to implement. I will try to code new condition for this behavior
16:19	kymara	in the short term can you change it back to a fixed amount please
16:19	kymara	i do not want it getting into release by mistake.
16:20	yoriy	I will, the only note i have, about level 100 and level 500 players: of course, it is not completely fair that first guy have to use more potions; but life is life, if he think it is too much he can wait until he could accept this quest. Look at situation as Despot :-)
16:21	yoriy	the same as for weekly item quest , if player think that xp reward will not cover his expences for item gathering, he must wait for another
16:21	kymara	is there a reallife reason that they'd get more xp depending on level?
16:21	kymara	if you're using real life arguments here
16:21	yoriy	no
16:23	yoriy	i will use xp reward value of 100k, until new conditions will ready. And min level of 80 :-)
16:24	kymara	thank you
16:31	kymara	For some of the website feature requests around postman messages they want to see messages from an npc differently
16:31	kymara	shall i add a flag to teh table so we are not having to hardcode the npc names to check it
16:34	hendrik	sounds like a good plan.
16:36	hendrik	support answer could be flagged different, too.
16:36	kymara	hm
16:37	*	kymara should be checking the character exists before storing the messages
16:37	kymara	yet more asynchronous stuff? :D
16:37	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: story-teller * stendhal/data/conf/zones/ados.xml: Added water and wave sounds to 0_ados_city_n2.
16:38	kymara	what do you think of the flag type for the halloffame table then, fametype, with D and M and P
16:38	kymara	could have S and N and P
16:38	hendrik	yes, but it can be done within the same command.
16:38	kymara	for support and npc and player
16:38	*	hendrik nods.
16:39	*	kymara likes look up tables but we don't tend to use these.
16:39	kymara	can it be done within the storeMessage method in the DAO?
16:39	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: yoriy * stendhal/ (2 files in 2 dirs): changed back to fixed amount of reward xp (100k). Min level for quest choosed to be 80.
16:39	hendrik	i think there is already a DAO method for that.
16:40	kymara	i guess it shoul be a separate check so some result can be returned
16:40	kymara	oh right, i can reuse CheckCharacterExistsCommand ...
16:41	kymara	alright. i'll get teh npc action working first
16:41	hendrik	you can just use the DAO called by that command.
16:41	kymara	thats the marauroa CharacterDAO
16:41	kymara	i think
16:42	*	hendrik nods.
16:42	kymara	jumping back to teh creating-an-npc-action task which is a bit separate from this (i mean, i will do the character check after) - do i have to use StendhalPlayerDatabase to add that column to postman table?
16:43	kymara	or can i just do it manually and on test server and on main since we never used it before anyway
16:43	kymara	that doesn't help forks though
16:43	hendrik	and on my server and on kiheru's server, on storyteller's server and on plassy's server, ....
16:44	kymara	eheh
16:44	kymara	they can drop their dbs
16:44	kymara	:P
16:44	kymara	ok i'll do it the proper way
16:44	kymara	sorry for nto thinking of it before
16:44	hendrik	by the way: Can you make a schema dump of the website database on testsever?
16:45	hendrik	It is missing tables because there is no update mechanism and i lost track of what i changed.
16:45	kymara	i know how to select stuff from information_schema, is that good enough?
16:46	kymara	from the COLUMNS table there?
16:46	kymara	or should i google schema dump?
16:46	hendrik	if you can get a list of tables with their columns, that would be cool.
16:46	kymara	yes, information_schema stores that meta data for mysql
16:46	hendrik	thank you.
16:50	kymara	data type and defaults etc too?
16:50	kymara	and indices?
16:51	kymara	well it doesn't take up much mroe space so i'll add them
16:58	kymara	http://stendhalgame.org/temp/testserverdb
16:58	kymara	select table_name, column_name, data_type, column_key from information_schema.COLUMNS where table_schema = 'blah' order by table_name;
16:58	kymara	so let me know if you want it different and i'll redo it
16:58	hendrik	sorry, can you do that again for the website database?
16:58	kymara	wasnt that it
16:58	hendrik	that's the game database.
16:59	kymara	hm, if thats not it then the wbesite db has a verystrange naming
16:59	hendrik	could you check configuration.php?
17:00	kymara	there isn't one
17:00	kymara	i did show databases;
17:01	kymara	i guess i have to be a different user than what's in server.ini.
17:04	kymara	http://xplanner.homelinux.net/stendhal_website/testserverdb
17:06	hendrik	thank you.
17:15	kymara	do you know offhand if H2 minds the AFTER syntax when you add a column
17:15	kymara	it seems like something generic enough that it's SQL not MySQL ...
17:19	hendrik	it only supports BEFORE
17:22	kymara	oh, i didnt' even know about BEFORE
17:22	kymara	ok, i can try that
17:23	kymara	why is java so picky, it's complain that 'N' isn't a String
17:23	hendrik	'N' is a char.
17:23	hendrik	"N" is a string.
17:24	hendrik	"'N'" is a string.
17:24	hendrik	an N with single quotes.
17:24	kymara	oh
17:24	kymara	weird
17:24	kymara	what shoudl I use
17:24	kymara	but 'blah' is a String, right?
17:24	hendrik	What is the line?
17:24	hendrik	no.
17:25	kymara	weird!
17:25	hendrik	in Java string always use "
17:25	kymara	the decision is what type to make the messagetype
17:25	kymara	i had it as String
17:25	kymara	so when I did 'N' it complained
17:25	kymara	so i changed it all to char in all themethods
17:25	kymara	shall i change it all back?
17:26	hendrik	I think using a string instead of a char on the java level is easier to use.
17:26	hendrik	on the database level it should be char(1)
17:26	kymara	yes.
17:27	kymara	i can do databases :)
17:27	kymara	the line is now: DBCommandQueue.get().enqueue(new StoreMessageCommand(npcName, player.getName(), message, "N"));
17:27	hendrik	good.
17:27	kymara	i decided to make the StoreMessageCommand rather generic so you can specify teh type in there.
17:27	hendrik	yes.
17:27	kymara	so we can use that same for the players too when we want and support if player is not onine
17:27	kymara	online
17:34	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: madmetzger * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/ (3 files in 3 dirs): create dao and db command for storing reached achievements
17:34	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/core/engine/ (db/PostmanDAO.java StendhalPlayerDatabase.java): add message type when we store a message to postman table
17:35	kymara	madmetzger: i guess we get conflicts on that StendhalPlayerDatabase if you registered your DAO there too.
17:37	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/core/engine/dbcommand/StoreMessageCommand.java: dbcommand to store a message for a player
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17:41	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/ (2 files in 2 dirs): add a store message action for NPCs to use. diogenes is a test case for this - ask him about his #job first.
17:41	madmetzger	it is not yet registered, as it is an early draft
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17:43	kymara	ok thats alright then :)
18:03	kymara	teh reaosn i thought we'd still use CheckCharacterExistsCommand is that i thought we'd wantfeedback
18:04	kymara	and then it's not 'fire and forget' any more, i thought
18:04	kymara	so yes, i could just make teh executre in the StoreMessage command do:
18:04	kymara	oops I closed eclipse
18:04	kymara	CharacterDAO characterdao = DAORegister.get().get(CharacterDAO.class);
18:04	kymara	String accountName = characterdao.getAccountName(charName);
18:04	kymara	and then the null-check
18:05	kymara	but then there's no feedback. so we could put a result into the StoreMessageCommand, etc, but then i feel like we're duplicating stuff
18:05	kymara	so if we want feedback - say - to the admin - that the characte doesn't exist - we'd want to use the CheckCharacterExists thingy anyway
18:30	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/doc/CHANGES.txt: add npc messages to postman changes and portal actions
18:31	kymara	developers: when you add new changes can you add them under the existing ones not above, per section? thanks.
18:37	storyteller	shall I slo add my changes there?
18:37	storyteller	*also
18:38	kymara	yes,, justa one line summary for all the sounds changes should do for example
18:38	kymara	if i didn't already add it. mostly i expect people to add their own changes
18:38	storyteller	Okay
18:39	storyteller	I'll add the changes I made
18:39	kymara	something like - new sounds and music added to athor ship, ados tunnels, ...
18:39	storyteller	yes
18:40	kymara	and it will go in the features section
18:40	kymara	i'm away for some time now
18:40	storyteller	Okay
18:41	kymara	also if you make any changes which need testing in particular then you can add those to the wiki page for stendhal testing
18:54	storyteller	Ah, yes okay
18:56	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: story-teller * stendhal/doc/CHANGES.txt: Added new music, new sounds and the sign at the flowers field to the changelog.
19:07	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * marauroa/ (README src/marauroa/server/db/command/DBCommandQueue.java): - added new method DBCommandQueue.getOneResult
19:07	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/libs/marauroa-3.8.5.jar: updated marauroa
19:07	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/KillEnemyArmy.java: organized imports
19:08	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed TurnListener leakage by using DBCommandQueue.getOneResult
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20:50	postman-bot	love_puppet rented a sign saying "woot go germany :D"
20:53	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: story-teller * stendhal/data/conf/zones/ados.xml: Added water and wave sounds to the haven in Ados City.
21:57	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: story-teller * stendhal/data/conf/zones/semos.xml: Added background ambiente music to 0_semos_forest_s, the entrance to the forest in 0_semos_plains_s and to 0_semos_road_se.
22:31	kymara	so what was leaking out of the turnlistener?
22:34	hendrik	create and enqueue first command, start turn listener A
22:34	hendrik	create and enqueue second command, start turn listener B
22:34	hendrik	---
22:34	hendrik	turn listener A gets both results
22:35	hendrik	turn listener B does not get any results, and registers itself again, thinking the database was too slow.
22:35	hendrik	---
22:35	hendrik	turn listener B does not get any results, and registers itself again, thinking the database was too slow.
22:36	kymara	hm
22:36	kymara	ok
22:37	kymara	why arent the results collected for that specific instance of the turn listener?
22:38	hendrik	that is possible in marauroa, using different ResultHandle
22:39	hendrik	in stendhal that would mean we had to use two different instances of the turn listener.
22:39	hendrik	we are currently using one instance, just registering it twice.
22:47	storyteller	Ah, I just got some new knowledge :)
22:48	storyteller	Never use the same background music track two times in a zone with radius
22:48	storyteller	somehow this didn't worked for me here
22:48	storyteller	but as I removed the one source, the other one worked
22:49	hendrik	please make a bug report.
22:49	storyteller	okay
22:49	storyteller	but I'll first test it again
22:56	storyteller	Yes, that is the case...
23:00	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: nhnb * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/ArmorForDagobert.java: accept pauldroned leather cuirass, too
23:00	storyteller	Okay the bug report is finished
23:01	storyteller	So I better not add the music to that zone then yet
23:01	storyteller	Or well... yes, I add the more important source
23:11	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: story-teller * stendhal/data/conf/zones/orril.xml: Added background ambient music to 0_orril_forest_e and the entrance to the forest in 0_orril_river_se.
23:13	CIA-66	arianne_rpg: story-teller * stendhal/doc/CHANGES.txt: Added the information that music also has been added to the forest.
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