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#arianne IRC Log for 2010-07-12
Timestamps are in server time.
| 00:07 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/tiled/Level 0/orril/mountain_w.tmx: add grass edge to make the transition up the mountain smoother |
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| 00:09 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/tiled/Level 0/orril/ (5 files): add protection on the path leading east -west along orril river |
| 00:13 | kymara | there aren't really many paths left to go now |
| 00:13 | hendrik | thank you for the pathes. |
| 00:13 | kymara | 0 semos mountain n w2 has one which isn't done but the zone might be protected already |
| 00:14 | kymara | inside nalwor city isnt' really worth it |
| 00:14 | kymara | maybe kalavan city since it's a simple path, and the castle but i think they're ok |
| 00:39 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/core/engine/dbcommand/StoreMessageCommand.java: use variable names in line with the dao and table. added getters for source, target and message. |
| 00:45 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/actions/admin/SupportAnswerAction.java: |
| 00:45 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: when answering support, send a message to postman if the player is offline but |
| 00:45 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: did exist. Needed to change how the supportanswer templates were formatted to |
| 00:45 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: include the name as it required player to be online but we could have used |
| 00:45 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: action.get(TARGET) like for the rest of it. |
| 00:45 | kymara | It should be clear to player who logs in that it was an answer to a support question. the admins get notified that it was answered using postman too. |
| 00:48 | kymara | I'd originally just made the 'Source' of that message be Support so that's all teh player knew when they logged in and got the message |
| 00:48 | kymara | but then we'd have to do something special about how we give feedback to the admin and all supporters |
| 00:48 | kymara | since no player called Support exists. |
| 00:52 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/doc/CHANGES.txt: about support using postman |
| 00:53 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/actions/admin/SupportAnswerAction.java: cleaned up imports |
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| 12:06 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kiheru * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/client/gui/layout/SBoxLayout.java: Fixed a couple of integer overflows. Added convenience methods for creating layout boxes and springs. |
| 13:39 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kiheru * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/client/gui/login/CharacterDialog.java: added padding |
| 15:41 | omero | YAY! I've got an ingame 'man with the hoe' wich even looks like he's hoeing :) |
| 15:56 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kiheru * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/client/gui/layout/SBoxLayout.java: support component alignment |
| 16:00 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kiheru * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/client/gui/login/LoginDialog.java: moved remove button right of the profile list |
| 16:02 | kiheru | now I'll just need a nice image for the for the button. (I tested the alignment with a multiline label) |
| 16:05 | omero | kiheru, a trashcan? |
| 16:05 | kiheru | yes |
| 16:06 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kiheru * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/client/gui/login/LoginDialog.java: Removed the etched border. It looks bad with the wooden style. |
| 16:06 | kiheru | did you pick a good one already? |
| 16:06 | omero | what size... 24x24? |
| 16:07 | kiheru | maybe about that, possibly even smaller |
| 16:13 | kiheru | tango icons would be free to use, if there's nothing suiteble in out tiles |
| 16:22 | kiheru | or I can draw a new one (metal; a wooden bucket would not be very clear on wooden background) |
| 16:38 | omero | ok |
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| 17:10 | kiheru | testing the size of the button: http://imagebin.ca/view/dQeVSsH.html |
| 17:11 | kiheru | (the image is just something I quickly made) |
| 17:11 | kiheru | ups |
| 17:11 | kiheru | wrong link |
| 17:11 | kiheru | http://imagebin.ca/view/vmFfRZr.html |
| 17:12 | kymara | looks ok size to me |
| 17:13 | kiheru | that would be 20x20 |
| 17:14 | kiheru | one pixel margins |
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| 17:32 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kiheru * stendhal/doc/CHANGES.txt: Added LoginDialog and SBoxLayout changes |
| 17:38 | storyteller | Is it possible to add a sound to a special server time? |
| 17:39 | storyteller | My idea was to add a bell sound for the Ados church (and maybe also for the Fado church) |
| 17:40 | storyteller | it could ring at full hours the number of time and every half hour a single time |
| 17:41 | storyteller | What do you think about that? :) |
| 17:41 | kiheru | I suppose it would be possible to implement |
| 17:41 | storyteller | Cool :) |
| 17:42 | kymara | could you make a feature request for it ? |
| 17:42 | storyteller | Yes, I'll do |
| 17:42 | kiheru | exact time would take a turn listener that runs way too often, but it's ok to be imprecise. they don't have atomic clocks |
| 17:42 | storyteller | yes ;) |
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| 18:17 | hendrik | kiheru, that dialog looks nice. |
| 18:17 | kiheru | thanks |
| 18:25 | storyteller | Shall I upload a bell sound? |
| 18:35 | kiheru | Sure. I could take a look how to make the sound source. not very interested to draw anything today so I'll leave the trashcan for some other day |
| 18:36 | storyteller | Okay :) |
| 18:37 | kiheru | we seem to have a SoundEvent. a couple of times an hour played sound looks like a prime candidate of using those :-D |
| 18:39 | storyteller | ;) |
| 18:42 | * | hendrik nods. |
| 18:44 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: story-teller * stendhal/data/sounds/bell-1.ogg: Added a bell sound for a church bell. The file is bell-1.ogg |
| 18:45 | storyteller | Okay, here it is :) |
| 18:45 | storyteller | You can also loop it, if you want ;) |
| 19:06 | kiheru | thank you |
| 19:07 | storyteller | You're welcome :) |
| 19:08 | kiheru | it's a very nice idea. I remember thingking a long time ago that it would nice to have some bell sounds around the churches, but a timed one is even better. by then the sound system could not have done that |
| 19:08 | storyteller | :) |
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| 19:09 | nickthecoder | hey all, I'm having a problem with my server disconnecting a lot when people are playing the game |
| 19:10 | nickthecoder | it sais that the server has flooded |
| 19:11 | kymara | nickthecoder: may you paste the error message to http://pastebin.ca so we can be sure of what you mean? |
| 19:12 | nickthecoder | here it is: http://pastebin.ca/1899127 |
| 19:14 | hendrik | 38 messages within one second? |
| 19:14 | hendrik | probably a broken bot. |
| 19:14 | kymara | the server is disconnecting people. but the server should be staying online |
| 19:14 | kymara | is that what you find, nickthecoder? |
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| 19:16 | nickthecoder_ | sorry, my other one stopped responding, does anyone know why that's happening? |
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| 19:16 | hendrik | is the server on the same internet connection as your irc client? |
| 19:16 | hendrik | 19:14 < hendrik> 38 messages within one second? |
| 19:16 | hendrik | 19:14 < hendrik> probably a broken bot. |
| 19:17 | kymara | 19:14 < kymara> the server is disconnecting people. but the server should be staying online |
| 19:17 | nickthecoder_ | no, the server is running the server and my computer is running the client |
| 19:18 | nickthecoder_ | so anyone know how i can fix it? |
| 19:19 | hendrik | can you make a network dump of those messages? |
| 19:19 | nickthecoder_ | i put the error messages on pastebin |
| 19:20 | hendrik | and it says there were 38 messages within one second. |
| 19:20 | hendrik | So I am wondering what those messages are. |
| 19:20 | kymara | that means, 38 messages from the client, to the server. just incase you didn't realise. |
| 19:20 | nickthecoder_ | oh, let me see... |
| 19:20 | kymara | in one second |
| 19:20 | nickthecoder_ | ah, ok |
| 19:23 | nickthecoder_ | where do i find where those messages are? |
| 19:23 | kymara | you need to do a network dump. if you use linux you can try tcpdump |
| 19:24 | nickthecoder_ | i don't use linux =/ |
| 19:24 | kymara | shall we google it? |
| 19:24 | nickthecoder_ | ok |
| 19:28 | kymara | 'There is also a port of tcpdump for Windows called WinDump' - dunno if that'd be any good |
| 19:28 | kymara | but i myself trust that more than some closed source sniffer tool or sth |
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| 20:49 | kymara | i dont' seem to be allowed to do multiple actions with the condition and actions portals |
| 20:49 | kymara | i tried it with two action parameters |
| 20:49 | kymara | and then i tried it with one action parameter but MultipleActions |
| 20:49 | kymara | ERROR [marauroad ] ZonesXMLLoader (151 ) - Error loading zone: int_semos_wizards_tower_1 |
| 20:49 | kymara | groovy.lang.GroovyRuntimeException: failed to invoke constructor: public games.stendhal.server.entity.npc.action.MultipleActions(games.stendhal.server.entity.npc.ChatAction[]) with arguments: {IncreaseXP <100>, equip item <1 candle>} reason: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: wrong number of arguments |
| 20:49 | kymara | <parameter name="action">new MultipleActions(new IncreaseXPAction(100), new EquipItemAction("candle"))</parameter> |
| 21:00 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/data/conf/zones/semos.xml: Make the portals in front of the chosen creature for each level give you a candle when you use them, only if you don't already have a candle. |
| 21:00 | kymara | ok, laguz, you'll see the usage is really similar to when you have a condition for them |
| 21:00 | kymara | i am not sure yet how to do more than one action |
| 21:00 | kymara | so for now this one just gives you a candle |
| 21:01 | kymara | I'm thinking that Zekiel shoudl give you a page from a book with the description of each wizard to carry with you maybe |
| 21:01 | kymara | what do you think? |
| 21:02 | kymara | can you make something really fitting to the quest for this? an old sheet of paper, with fancy writing, a picture of each wizard of symbol of this magic,with written the description that zekiel gives when you ask about each wizard? |
| 21:04 | kymara | ohhhh cute he made it look as though you can see down to the ground when you're in the spire |
| 21:04 | kymara | that is so clever |
| 21:04 | * | kymara waves at the little trees |
| 21:04 | kiheru | hehe |
| 21:04 | kymara | hello tree! |
| 21:05 | hendrik | kymara, can you try if it works with the most recent groovy.jar from http://groovy.codehaus.org/Download ? |
| 21:05 | kymara | kiheru: how do you close a gate? |
| 21:05 | kiheru | use? |
| 21:06 | kymara | ahh i wasn't *right* next to it |
| 21:06 | kymara | they need a rejetc message for if you arefar away. |
| 21:06 | kiheru | some of the gates are timed, I don't remember if all of laguz' doors are |
| 21:10 | kymara | sorry, which is the groovy jar in? |
| 21:10 | kymara | ah i found it |
| 21:13 | postman-bot | miguelangelo rented a sign saying "sell meat 1 = 5$" |
| 21:15 | kymara | http://pastebin.ca/1899230 |
| 21:15 | kymara | that latest one wasn't liked at all |
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| 22:46 | hendrik | kymara, please use <parameter name="action">new MultipleActions([new IncreaseXPAction(100), new EquipItemAction("candle")])</parameter> with the original groovy.jar. |
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| 22:47 | hendrik | that is from a groovy bug report i found. |
| 22:47 | kymara | ok, i'll try. do i guess it will be the same for AndCondition too? |
| 22:48 | hendrik | yes. |
| 22:51 | kymara | it works now thank you |
| 22:57 | kymara | laguz, if there was anything you didn't like about the door behaviour then you can now use a portal instead if you prefer, because you can make your own key destroying portal just by making a ConditionAndActionPortal have a DropItemAction |
| 22:58 | kymara | laguz, i put the multiple action there with the xp too mostly as an example. |
| 22:59 | kymara | laguz, the not having item condition is so player didn't keep getting xp and candles as the doors onlyate one at a time and it looked funny to get a lot and the reject message serves as a good instruction |
| 23:00 | kymara | and i am not sure about calling teh quest slot candle_quest and the quest name something quite different, bit confusing, and putting _quest in the name is a bit duplication as it's a quest slot, maybe we can think something better (please ask though.) |
| 23:10 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/data/conf/zones/semos.xml: make each giving-candle portal also give some xp |
| 23:37 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kiheru * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/entity/mapstuff/sound/BellSoundSource.java: A timed sound source for the churches |
| 23:37 | kiheru | it's the only of it's kind for now so I did not bother to generalize it to some TimedSoundSource |
| 23:40 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/houses/HouseTax.java: Use postman table to store and send the house tax messages |
| 23:41 | CIA-66 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/semos/tavern/market/ (AcceptOfferHandler.java OfferExpirer.java): Use postman table to store and send the expired offers and sold items messages |
| 23:43 | kymara | neither of those really fit using the npc actio i made |
| 23:43 | kymara | but it's just one line to send the db command version anyway |
| 23:43 | kymara | so i just did that. |
| 23:44 | kymara | DBCommandQueue.get().enqueue(new StoreMessageCommand("Mr Taxman", owner, message, "N")); |
| 23:44 | kymara | like that |
| 23:44 | kymara | otherwise i'd have to do something silly as it's not part of the add method, that that gets sent |
| 23:45 | martinf | wow - there are completely new classes i didn't know :) |
| 23:45 | martinf | DBCommandQueue for example |
| 23:46 | kymara | thats part of marauroa |
| 23:47 | kymara | the asynchronous database access stuff |
| 23:47 | martinf | yep i suspected it |
| 23:47 | kymara | for example when you try to add a buddy to your list with /add buddyname, it goes to check if that character exists |
| 23:48 | kymara | but we don't want to make the server pause while that happens |
| 23:48 | kymara | i mean, if the database table is locked say |
| 23:48 | martinf | so you don't know if it succeeded immediatelly |
| 23:49 | martinf | what if an error occures? |
| 23:49 | kymara | that's right |
| 23:49 | kymara | you wait for teh result |
| 23:49 | kymara | if you need a result |
| 23:49 | kymara | some commands can just be queued and you don't care to know the result |
| 23:49 | kymara | what kind of error? |
| 23:49 | martinf | well any kind |
| 23:49 | martinf | an sql error may be |
| 23:50 | hendrik | martinf, even before the async stuff, we just logged them. |
| 23:50 | martinf | mh ok |
| 23:50 | kymara | most of the daos log them |
| 23:50 | kymara | that hasn't reall changed with this |
| 23:51 | hendrik | Just in cases the data was needed for further processing, errors are handled. |
| 23:51 | martinf | so one should not try to write a bank management software with mauroroa ;) |
| 23:51 | hendrik | for example if a database operation failes during login, the client is told that there was an error. |
| 23:52 | hendrik | martinf, you can, it uses transactions. |
| 23:52 | martinf | oh you are prepared for anything:) |
| 23:52 | kymara | for example there is now a table to store postman messages |
| 23:53 | hendrik | martinf, in fact my bank uses a very similar approach: Some time ago I got an error message just saying that some error occured without details. |
| 23:54 | kymara | and the command which gets the messages for the player, will get the undelivered messages, and marks those delivered in one transaction |
| 23:54 | kymara | so if something bad did happen both would get rolled back together. |
| 23:54 | martinf | correct |
| 23:55 | martinf | i myself got an error report on my bankstatement a week ago |
| 23:55 | martinf | seems i typed the wrong account number ;) |
| 23:55 | martinf | they just sent the money back in a second transaction |
| 23:56 | martinf | the command and undo command pattern :) |
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