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#arianne IRC Log for 2010-08-28
Timestamps are in server time.
| 00:01 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/ (WeeklyItemQuest.java DailyItemQuest.java): make the delay constants private static final (static is the new part) |
| 00:08 | kymara | it seems there's afew tests i can't run singly without npcs now |
| 00:08 | kymara | should i make a bug report in general or per test? |
| 00:08 | kymara | npes |
| 00:10 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/ (2 files in 2 dirs): use TimePassedCondition so we can remove the custom TimeExpiredCondition in this quest. Also use SayTimeRemainingAction. Test change is just not to test the TimeExpiredCondition |
| 00:11 | hendrik | if the test related, one should do, if the test are not related multiple bug reports might be more helpful. |
| 00:11 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/ThePiedPiper.java: make Logger final |
| 00:12 | kymara | i dont know if the reasons arethe same |
| 00:13 | kymara | they're both for quests |
| 00:13 | kymara | the fail is the same |
| 00:13 | hendrik | okay |
| 00:17 | kymara | help tomi is by far my favourite quest to test |
| 00:17 | kymara | btw did you like how terrible my commit message was |
| 00:17 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/HelpTomi.java: use string buffer to create the string made in a loop rather than + operator |
| 00:18 | kymara | 'make the delay constants private static final (static is the new part)' - static is kind of opposite of java keyword new, isn't it |
| 00:18 | kymara | i just didn't mean it in the keyword sense |
| 00:19 | * | hendrik giggles. |
| 00:20 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/ (download/.htaccess download.php): started to work on permanent download urls |
| 00:28 | hendrik | kymara, please change http://arianne.sf.net/stendhal.version to 0.86.1 |
| 00:29 | hendrik | the clients will ignore it, but this way we can use it to point to the most recent download. |
| 00:31 | kymara | hmmm |
| 00:35 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: tigertoes * stendhal/tiled/Level 0/ados/wall_s.tmx: replaced hedge tile with appropriate one |
| 00:37 | hendrik | what's wrong with that? |
| 00:41 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/download.php: completed constant download script and preconfigured it for jmapachman, marauroa, marboard and stendhal (needs a <product>.version file in the root folder which is currently only the case for stendhal) |
| 00:42 | kymara | done |
| 00:42 | kymara | did you want those others made too |
| 00:46 | hendrik | it means an extra step on releases. |
| 00:48 | kymara | on marauroa releases |
| 00:48 | kymara | but the others we don't really release that often |
| 00:49 | hendrik | yes |
| 00:49 | kymara | i have to ssh in anyway for marauroa releases. because i change server_marauroa |
| 00:49 | kymara | (and for the frs stuff, it's easier to create directories with the shell) |
| 00:50 | hendrik | if you are okay with this extra step, i'd like to have them. |
| 00:50 | kymara | that's fine. |
| 00:50 | hendrik | thank you. |
| 00:50 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/tiled/Level 0/kirdneh/ (river_w.tmx city.tmx): added a bit wood to kirdneh river and moved a rat from outside a player house as per ID: 3044709 |
| 00:51 | Bluelads4 | poor rat :D |
| 00:52 | kymara | it is just moved, not deaded |
| 00:52 | Bluelads4 | phew! |
| 00:52 | Bluelads4 | :D |
| 00:52 | Bluelads4 | I wanted to throw tomatoes already while shouting "murder murder!" |
| 00:52 | Bluelads4 | but I don't have to now :D |
| 00:59 | hendrik | i am currently thinking of nice urls for arianne.sf.net |
| 00:59 | kymara | url reads like girl when you are tired |
| 01:00 | Bluelads4 | :D |
| 01:00 | * | hendrik blushes. |
| 01:00 | kymara | sorry |
| 01:00 | * | Bluelads4 hugs hendrik |
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| 01:17 | Bluelads4 | hmm is it normal that I get a message that I need the newest client 0.86.1? |
| 01:18 | Bluelads4 | tiagomt asked the same some seconds ago in the game |
| 01:18 | Bluelads4 | (better saying he asked if a new release took place and that he got asked to get the newest client) |
| 01:19 | hendrik | ooops. |
| 01:19 | Bluelads4 | hehe :) |
| 01:19 | hendrik | that was not supposed to happen. |
| 01:19 | hendrik | kymara, please edit the stendhal.version back. |
| 01:19 | hendrik | sorry. |
| 01:19 | Bluelads4 | when I click on "ok" nothing else happens |
| 01:19 | Bluelads4 | ) |
| 01:19 | Bluelads4 | ) |
| 01:19 | Bluelads4 | oops sorry :D |
| 01:19 | Bluelads4 | :) |
| 01:20 | * | Bluelads4 's fingers have to learn again to type on the small tiny keyboard :D |
| 01:20 | kymara | strange, i tested it after and i didn't getthat message. |
| 01:20 | kymara | changed back |
| 01:21 | hendrik | kymara, thank you. |
| 01:24 | Bluelads4 | everything fine again now :) |
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| 09:34 | postman-bot | Horst rented a sign saying "i sell a mithril bow for 2,5 M" |
| 11:50 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/index.php: fixed favicon link and use path relative to root for css |
| 11:52 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/WriteHTML.php: link headings |
| 11:56 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/ (5 files in 2 dirs): use image pathes relative to root for css |
| 12:08 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/cssdef.css: deleted unused file |
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| 13:20 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/ElfPrincess.java: |
| 13:20 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: Moving the timestamping and time check to Rose Leigh (so you can't get a flower |
| 13:20 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: within 5 minutes of last getting flower). Fix the isCompleted and isRepeatable |
| 13:20 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: methods which were broken by the timestamp settings and also the 'rejected' |
| 13:20 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: check. add getHistory |
| 13:21 | kymara | (haven't checked test for it yet as i was doing that on netbook, but it should build. looking at test etc now.) |
| 13:34 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/AmazonPrincess.java: fixed typo in get History |
| 13:35 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Update test to match new behaviour which fixed : Tywysoga doesn't respond while waiting ID: 3040537 and put the time delay onto Rose Leigh as suggested there |
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| 14:16 | madmetzger | i am thinking atm about how to get the region of a zone, usually it works if you parse the zone name as most look like 0_semos_city if they belong to a certain region |
| 14:17 | madmetzger | but there are zones like the kanmararn ones where i think that should belong to semos region |
| 14:17 | hendrik | why? |
| 14:17 | madmetzger | their name does not fit that scheme |
| 14:17 | hendrik | I think the semos region is way too large. |
| 14:19 | kymara | kanmararn can be considered it's own region |
| 14:19 | hendrik | it might be a good idea to print out the atlas on DIN A3 (or two times A3) and discuss the region borders on the weekend. |
| 14:19 | kymara | it's an underground city in it's own right |
| 14:19 | kymara | yes it happened to be defined in semos.xml but that could be considered laziness. |
| 14:19 | madmetzger | okay, i was thinking kanmararn would be too small compared to semos region oder ados region |
| 14:20 | kymara | i think thats fine |
| 14:20 | kymara | kirdneh is just as small i guess? |
| 14:20 | kymara | 2 zones (though it does have interiors) |
| 14:20 | hendrik | i think of semos region as the village, the city, the zone below norht and south of them and perhaps the farm. |
| 14:21 | hendrik | i think of semos region as the village, the city, the zone north and south of them and perhaps the farm. |
| 14:21 | hendrik | all the mountains in the far north and west could be something else. |
| 14:21 | madmetzger | i think hendrik's suggestion to discuss it on the atlas printed out is a good idea |
| 14:21 | madmetzger | maybe we should start splitting those xmls then if we decided sth? |
| 14:21 | hendrik | yes. |
| 14:22 | hendrik | but first we need to get the content straight before we do the technical stuff. |
| 14:22 | madmetzger | that's right |
| 14:22 | madmetzger | what should be done with the 'special' zones hell, dreamscape and kika? |
| 14:23 | madmetzger | kika could be considered its own region |
| 14:23 | kymara | kika is a region. |
| 14:23 | madmetzger | yes |
| 14:23 | kymara | dreamscape is regionless. |
| 14:24 | madmetzger | and so is hell? |
| 14:25 | kymara | if i thought that i'd have said it in the same sentence |
| 14:26 | kymara | hell is accessed directly from nalwor caves but its farfar below there (you fall down the chasm) |
| 14:26 | kymara | so it could be considered part of nalwor, but anyway since you have to be a certain level to even get in, maybe it's best to exclude it for the purpose of achievements. |
| 14:30 | madmetzger | okay, sounds reasonable :) |
| 14:31 | madmetzger | apart from the discussion about regions and which zone belongs to which region, i'd like to make StendhalRPWorld aware of that |
| 14:31 | madmetzger | my first idea is to store zones in a map with the region as key and a list of zones as value |
| 14:32 | madmetzger | one alternative i had in mind was to have a region attribute in the StendhalRPZone, but i think the first option is a bit better |
| 14:35 | kymara | i worked out why i can't run test indivudally now :( |
| 14:36 | kymara | i used to have project root folder on class path for everything |
| 14:36 | kymara | but that made some problems with like when i tried to do organie imports it would add the import as src.games.stendhal ... not games.stendhal |
| 14:37 | kymara | so i took it off, and my settings for running the whole stendhal test suite just has it |
| 14:37 | kymara | but now i can't run tests indivudally as it doesn't find items.xml |
| 14:37 | kymara | how do i fix this without messing up the rest again |
| 14:37 | kymara | i don't want to set run configuration for every test i tryt o run indivdually, it's really annoying |
| 14:38 | kymara | (i can rerun a test invidually if i'd previously run it from the whole 'stendhal' test suite) |
| 14:38 | madmetzger | you need to include src and tests as source folders in the project properties |
| 14:38 | kymara | but i am sure i was told to remove them |
| 14:38 | kymara | i did have it all set up right, but the import thing was messed up then |
| 14:39 | kymara | i have src and tests on build path |
| 14:40 | madmetzger | okay, that's what i have, too |
| 14:40 | madmetzger | then you can add the root again and eclipse should exclude src and tests from that |
| 14:41 | hendrik | do not add the root folder as source. |
| 14:41 | kymara | shall i send you 3 screenshots |
| 14:42 | hendrik | i just add the classpath to all tests. |
| 14:42 | kymara | how? |
| 14:42 | hendrik | manually. |
| 14:42 | kymara | i have 'all tests' as a package |
| 14:42 | kymara | i mean like a run configuartion |
| 14:42 | hendrik | but it is supposed to work, if you go to project properties, java build path, libraries and add the project root folder as classes folder. |
| 14:43 | hendrik | yes |
| 14:43 | kymara | but when i right click and run just SoupTest i want it |
| 14:43 | kymara | i dont' want to have to add it myself |
| 14:43 | hendrik | except that the button does not open a dialog box for me. |
| 14:43 | kymara | http://imagebin.ca/view/vAE_F3Lf.html here is my build path for project |
| 14:44 | kymara | here is what i see for one test if i just right click .. run as |
| 14:44 | hendrik | thta is correct. |
| 14:44 | kymara | http://imagebin.ca/view/DOjQdx.html |
| 14:44 | hendrik | 14:42 < hendrik> but it is supposed to work, if you go to project properties, java build path, libraries and add the project root folder as classes folder. |
| 14:44 | kymara | here is what i set up for running the whole stendhal prject http://imagebin.ca/view/xpQos8h.html |
| 14:45 | kymara | AddClass Folder .. ? |
| 14:45 | hendrik | yes |
| 14:45 | kymara | or add external class folder? |
| 14:45 | hendrik | both is fine. |
| 14:45 | hendrik | it should open a dialog box if you click them. |
| 14:45 | kymara | Cannot nest 'stendhal/tests' inside library 'stendhal' |
| 14:45 | hendrik | :-/ |
| 14:45 | kymara | iit opened a thingy where i could tick the folder i wanted |
| 14:46 | hendrik | okay. |
| 14:46 | madmetzger | that's my setup: http://imagebin.ca/view/hmYEPn.html |
| 14:46 | hendrik | that should happen, i did not know about the validation check. |
| 14:46 | kymara | madmetzger: can you right click and run the SoupTest say? |
| 14:46 | kymara | it's in maps quests |
| 14:47 | madmetzger | yes, i can |
| 14:49 | kymara | hendrik why is it bad to add root folder as source like madmetzger has? |
| 14:49 | hendrik | it often create strange issues. |
| 14:58 | madmetzger | what kind of issues? up to now i wasn't aware of that |
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| 15:06 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/xml/ (game_stendhal.xml server_marauroa.xml website_news.xml): updated from live side |
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| 15:52 | madmetzger | any comments on the StendhalRPWorld stuff? or other suggestions how to design region handling? |
| 16:04 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/ (5 files in 3 dirs): use path relative to / |
| 16:06 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/.htaccess: rewrite rules for nice urls |
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| 17:29 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/ (14 files in 4 dirs): use nice urls in links |
| 17:54 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/ (22 files in 3 dirs): changed the signatures of TimePassedCondition and SayTimeRemainingAction so the quest index is after the quest state (also put the message last in SayTimeRemainingAction) and updated affected files |
| 17:55 | kymara | if i come across any others where the quest index isn't directly with the quest state i'll change those too. |
| 17:58 | hendrik | that makes things easier to use. |
| 17:59 | hendrik | http://serverfault.com/questions/175595/prevent-loop-of-rewriterule-in-htaccess |
| 18:00 | hendrik | apart from that, i need to do something smart with "show archived games" |
| 18:00 | hendrik | and it will need a bit of testing. |
| 18:09 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/docs/gladiators/gladiators_manual.php: fixed image links |
| 18:24 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/common/math/Algebra.java: make final: public static final float EPSILON = 0.0000001f; |
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| 18:43 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/piedpiper/TPPQuest.java: made logger final |
| 18:45 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/KillEnemyArmy.java: used Integer.valueof(int) instead of new Integer(int) to allow caching of values by the compiler. also made the zero check check the original int == 0 not the string.equals("0") |
| 18:47 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/piedpiper/InvasionPhase.java: make method start with a lowercase |
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| 19:37 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/tests/games/stendhal/server/entity/npc/condition/TimePassedConditionTest.java: changed the signatures of TimePassedCondition and SayTimeRemainingAction so the quest index is after the quest state (also put the message last in SayTimeRemainingAction) and updated affected files |
| 19:38 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: kymara * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/magic/house1/ChallengerNPC.java: changed the signatures of TimePassedCondition and SayTimeRemainingAction so the quest index is after the quest state (also put the message last in SayTimeRemainingAction) and updated affected files |
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| 20:17 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/.htaccess: stupid workaround to prevent endless redirection loop |
| 20:23 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/content/documentation.php: used stendhalgame.org |
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| 20:29 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/.htaccess: cleaned up rewriting rules |
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| 20:32 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/WriteHTML.php: fixed heading linking to individual news items |
| 21:00 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: yoriy * stendhal/src/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/ThePiedPiper.java: added check for phases list size |
| 21:01 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: yoriy * stendhal/tests/games/stendhal/server/maps/quests/ThePiedPiperTest.java: added test for phases changing engine |
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| 22:02 | Nobun | a little question: can armor have effect in attack efficent? |
| 22:03 | Nobun | I ask becouse I changed my armor temporary (from golden to plate) and seems I hit more strongly my enemies |
| 22:03 | Nobun | if not... what is "weight"? (it doesn't appear in game description or item description, but this attribute appears in xml) |
| 22:04 | hendrik | it is ignored. |
| 22:04 | hendrik | i don't think armor has an impact on attack. |
| 22:04 | Nobun | thank... so I assume that armor should not have effect in attack efficientness |
| 22:05 | Nobun | hmm |
| 22:05 | Nobun | perhaps is only due to new level (from 49 to 50) |
| 22:06 | Nobun | another thing... why high-rate-weapon (like drow sword or weapons with rate >=6) miss so many times? |
| 22:06 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/.htaccess: added support for archived games |
| 22:07 | hendrik | high rate weapons are efficient against weak creatures. |
| 22:07 | hendrik | against strong creatures slow weapons are better. |
| 22:07 | kymara | rate>= 6 means slow. |
| 22:07 | Nobun | sometimes I have to wait VERY LONG to see a hit (expecially when you are awaiting the last hit for kill) |
| 22:08 | Nobun | kymara I know that weapons are slow but |
| 22:08 | kymara | i am correcting what hendrik said. |
| 22:08 | Nobun | I was referring about cycles no-hit |
| 22:08 | kymara | he said: high rate weapons are effective against weak creatures |
| 22:08 | kymara | and you had previously made your own defintion: high rate measn rate >=6 |
| 22:09 | Nobun | yep xD |
| 22:09 | kymara | which confused. |
| 22:09 | kymara | lets be more careful. |
| 22:09 | kymara | the bigger the ratre number, the slower. |
| 22:09 | Nobun | my definition becouse since rate 4 is a thing... from rate 6 another... rate 5 = i don't know |
| 22:09 | kymara | the lower the rate number, the faster. |
| 22:09 | Nobun | yep I know |
| 22:09 | kymara | fast weapons are effective against weak creatures. |
| 22:09 | kymara | okay never mind,. |
| 22:09 | kymara | see you |
| 22:09 | Nobun | but I try to explain better my question |
| 22:09 | kymara | bye |
| 22:10 | Nobun | becouse it is a little different |
| 22:10 | Nobun | I know that hig-rate is better against strong monsters and low-rate against weak ones |
| 22:10 | Nobun | but I am asking about another thing |
| 22:11 | Nobun | I make an example |
| 22:11 | Nobun | I assume in my example a time-cicle of 60 |
| 22:11 | Nobun | so a rate 6 will hit 10 times |
| 22:11 | Nobun | and a rate 2 will hit 30 times |
| 22:11 | Nobun | ok? |
| 22:12 | hendrik | i think, yes. |
| 22:12 | Nobun | it happens, that the weapon rate 6 in that 10 time can miss all 10 hits (no deal damage) |
| 22:12 | Nobun | so you see the weapon hits, but the result is no damage against enemies |
| 22:13 | Nobun | instead in rate 2 this seems not happen |
| 22:14 | hendrik | Nobun, i know too little about how it work. |
| 22:14 | Nobun | so you could experience a thing like enemy that don't want to die (near to 0 energy left) becouse your drow sword don't want to hit (sometimes also for a entire minute) |
| 22:14 | hendrik | it may be a good idea to make a bug report and add the information you wrote here. |
| 22:15 | Nobun | I am used to report bug when I am sure that it is a bug... I am asking if it is a wanted thing or it is an unexpected thing |
| 22:15 | Nobun | a false bug report can be a loss of time xD |
| 22:15 | Bluelads4 | but it can be closed within 2 seconds ^^ |
| 22:16 | hendrik | Nobun, if you feel unsure, just mention it in the report. |
| 22:16 | Nobun | ok I will add a bug report (new item so I can add it also without being subscribed) |
| 22:17 | Nobun | sure hendrik |
| 22:20 | CIA-30 | arianne_rpg: nhnb * website/ (5 files in 3 dirs): added support for archived sub pages |
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| 22:25 | Nobun | added... as usual I forgot to sign it (adding my name) |
| 22:26 | Nobun | thank for your answers |
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| 23:20 | hendrik | the code of the arianne.sf.net-website is ready for nice urls, the ability to link to individual news-postings and constant download urls that will always point to the newest version |
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